PES Manifesto

1. Again - impressed par rikkeindenmark le vendredi 29 août 2008 à 10h58

Again: really, really cool initiative! I am very impressed with the Hungarian PES activists! And I would love to taste the jam :-)

2. Great idea par avalon le vendredi 29 août 2008 à 11h00

This initiative is really interesting - taking the funny thing in it and spreading a serious idea.

As it can be very catchy and since media always provide coverage for kind of ideas, I am sure that PES activists Hungary will get coverage in the US!

3. Wrong judgement shadows Obama par arktika le vendredi 29 août 2008 à 21h34

I have considered Obama as good alternative to McCain with hope to see some change with US Foreign policy. However when he selected Biden as his running mate based e.g. Biden's experience about foreign affairs I doubt his judgement. Selecting a man on the record for stating that “all Serbs should be placed in Nazi-style concentration camps” during Senatorial deliberations in 1999 over NATO aggression on Serbia, and that United States ought to conduct a fascist, “Japanese-German style occupation” of Serbia. My expectations are now below zero level - unfortunately.

4. Sounds serious par together le lundi 1 septembre 2008 à 15h31

Hello Arktika,

My opinion on the Balkans and former sovjet republics is that politicians from that area like to use martial expressions in general. A lot of European politicians should keep that in mind when listening to Russian and Georgian representatives these days and of course they shouldn't let themselves get inspired by it.

If that was the case with Biden? I am not sure. It could also be misleading quotations or wrong tranlations that you are refering to. If not, please give evidence for what you say. Where can I find the original speeches were such quotes can be found? If you cannot prove your words with facts, better do not make such statements!

 

5. Few quotes par arktika le mardi 2 septembre 2008 à 11h02

From http://www.thecablevine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6568“Joe (Biden) was an enthusiastic supporter of Clinton’s bombing of Serbia. So much so, he sponsored the March 23, 1999 Senate resolution authorizing Clinton to bomb Serbia. Biden declared ““all Serbs should be placed in Nazi-style concentration camps”” during Senatorial deliberations in 1999 over NATO’s attack against Serbia. On Larry King Live, he characterized the Serbs as ““a bunch of illiterates, degenerates, baby killers, butchers and rapists.””From: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/forum/read.html?id=9789&skip=15“I remind the readers that Senator Biden, in just ONE CNN interview on August 1, 1993 called the Serbs: "Thugs, murderers, rapists, aggressors, invaders, guerillas, butchers, terrorists, illiterates, degenerates, baby killers and Fascists." Biden never explains how the Serbs invated their own country or were aggressors in that same country. We threw Don Imus off of the air for making fun of black ball players but we allow Biden a bigoted Serbophobe to keep his seat in the Senate. Imagine this Senator is running for the presidency of the United States of America...with such a disgraceful level of hoof-and-mouth disease can anyone imagine where his brand of hate speech will lead?”From: http://markphaverkamp.blogspot.com
UPDATE: Senator Biden silisierte 1993 Bosnier und Kroaten zu Opfern von "Aggressionen im Nazi-Stil". Daß er Biden, der Serbenfresser Der neue Mann im Rennen befürwortete 1999 enthusiastisch die Bombardierung Serbiens. Im Senat meinte er, alle (!) Serben sollten in Konzentrationslager ("nazi-style") gesperrt werden. Für ihn waren sie offenbar eine andere Sorte Mensch: gefordert haben soll, alle Serben in Konzentrationslager zu sperren, ist unbelegt. Auf Larry King Live soll er die Serben als eine "Truppe von Illiteraten, Degenerierten, Kindermördern, Schlächtern und Vergewaltigern" charakterisiert haben.

Gepostet von Mark P. Haverkamp